It doesn't matter who's the best group, because you all rocked!
In the end, we've brought a group of strangers together and they are now bonded - FRIENDS to last a LIFETIME.
Hope you all enjoyed orientation. We'll be waiting... For THE NEXT ONE.
~Loads of love~
Paige and the rest of the committee:)
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Hi I am one of the juniors in medt109 and I am here sounding my voice for the treasure hunt on Saturday.
ReplyDeleteNo matter how hard were the preparations for the orientation, no matter how much efforts the seniours have paid, the orientation commitee shouldn't had placed the bunch of nigger-like people as station masters. They did not rag us, they humiliated us. Is this the way IMU welcome new students?
I feel that the macha gang has gone overboard in ragging the juniors. This juniors feels humiliated of themself and as the committee members, you all didn't stop them. I think this got to END!! You all have not just destroyed your batch name but the name of IMU.
ReplyDeleteReferring to comment made by the junior:
ReplyDeleteThis is a comment totally uncalled for in its description of IMU students: 'nigger-like ppl'???. It is clear that whoever wrote this post had the intention of pointing out Indian seniors are the culprits, but it is cowardly and DESPICABLE to describe as such. I am the chief first aider AND more importantly, an INDIAN, and this is as much an insult to me as to any other Indian, Sri Lankan, or any other seniors remotely associated as being 'nigger-like'!. If the junior really wanted to emphasise on the 'humiliation' he/she encountered, he/she shd haf focussed on the deeds, not the people. Whoever posted this comment has in fact humiliated himself/herself by making such a crude, plainly racist remark. If 6 members of the orientation committee who were physically present did not see any wrong in what the Station Masters did at station 3, I do not see the reason for the junior to complain. What else is there to a 'BOOT CAMP'? It was already clear to juniors from Day 0, that this orientation was based on an army theme. Why is it that difficult to understand? If we were expected to hand out flowers to every junior at every orientation activity, we might as well rename the orientation as 'peace-be-with-you' camp. This boot camp is an attempt to be different. Those who enjoy this change, well and good.. hope u guys enjoy urself more. As for those who wish to complain at every nook and corner of the uni, keep complaining and before u know, the orientation will be over, and u can go back to ur cocoon of comforts.
first off, the whole idea of defending the actions by station masters during treasure hunt without any consideration to the complaints made by the juniors is a huge mistake. If the juniors are not convinced that the committee is there to help, they might as well exclude themselves from the remaining activities. The comment above, 'those who enjoy this change...u can go back to your cocoon of comforts', somewhat challenges the juniors whether to continue with this whole orientation. But is this what the committee wants, after so much of hardwork and publicity put forth for this orientation. The juniors certainly aren't obliged to come just to satisfy the seniors. Orientation is not compulsory, and the juniors certainly did not sign up for a 'Boot Camp'. They wanted to be part of a program to adapt themselves to the new environment, it just so happened that this batch had this camp idea imposed on them. If the juniors are not given importance here, than it is as good as throwing away weeks of preparation for this event, as less or none will be participitating in the remaining activities.
ReplyDeleteTo whom it may concern,
ReplyDeleteThis is Paige, Vice President of Orientation speaking.
First and foremost, thank you for finally giving feedback on Orientation.
And secondly, regarding your experience in treasure hunt (outdoor). This activity, is planned by Ickes and Matthew but any activities held in a station are taken care of by the Station Masters themselves. And from what I can see, you feel that you are unhappy with that particular station.
Before I point out the issues regarding that station, I would like to first tell you that ALL your OOs have been briefed over and over again that YOU have the right not to fulfil a request if you think is OVERBOARD. That's right. And if you don't know about this, then your OOs might not have done a good job delivering the message or you in listening the message. And another thing is, if you feel that the action is overboard, PLEASE INFORM US ON THE SPOT, so action can be taken immediately. It might not be of use if you tell us only after the event. That is why we gave you booklets with all the numbers of the committee members, it is for you to contact us. And if you were to not understand anything regarding a particular event, please call the persons in charge to get clarification. And as for FIRST AID, please know that you have to tell the OOs if any undesirable event occurs so that they can reach FIRST AID immediately. The first aid team can't be everywhere all the time, please tell and go to them. And as for those having medical conditions that disallows you from participating in that station, please inform your OOs and the station masters in charge. They are all human and most importantly, MEDICAL STUDENTS, and they can understand the situation you are in.
And now, regarding activities at stations. As I have mentioned above, we have already told your OOs to tell you that you have a choice to do a request. Any requests are not forced, and if you think that the request is overboard, YOU CAN SAY NO! And tell your OOs to come to us regarding what request was asked which is humiliating. REMEMBER< YOU CAN SAY NO! You don't need to if you don't want to.
And to you, anonymous, we may have missed out on you, and if you could tell me what humiliation was done on you, then I can know what was done to you. You can send me an email to medt109bootcamp@gmail.com
Your identity will be kept secret and this will only be between you and me.
Regarding the 'macha' gang station, I was there almost all of the time. I went around all 7 stations and find it quite fine. I know that it may be tough, but to me, I regard the station as a DISCLIPINARY STATION. From what I see, they told juniors to run, paint their faces green or red, (boys) dip their shirts in a concoction of something and squeeze it out, duck walk, sing their national anthem, do the helicopter, sing, dance, push up, hug the tree, find out names, get egged, get floured, etc. And to tell you the truth, it is not that much of humiliating they can do. But if you feel that what they did to you or your friends were humiliating, DO TELL US.
As I saw, they were quite tough, like in a typical bootcamp, delivering their commands in shoutings. But I will be honest, that I disapprove of their excessive use of foul language. This, I think is not necessary in this context and should be stopped. In fact, Jeremy, went to confront them of their behaviour and they stopped.
Another note: Please treat your OOs as your friends, not your babysitter. They are there to help you in adapting to your new school and not feeding you, carrying your burden. But since they are all nice people, they wouldn't mind it, but please be appreciative. They are also students of IMU like you and me, we have classes and exams, just that we're here in IMU longer than you, and are willing to help you adapt here. I may be right or I may be wrong but, you would know about this yourselves.
And do not worry about the 'macha' gangs, for now, you can dislike them on how they 'orientate' you or your friends. But in the end, we can know how much you care for your friends, and that means you have already created a bond with your teammates. That is our aim, to create caring individuals, who can face tough challenges ahead.
This is how we prepare you for your life ahead, because when you're in med school, life is tough, and it's worse when you graduate as a MD.
This is just a way to tell you that life is not easy, and we're only preparing you to what is to come in the profession you have chosen. And this is why our theme is Ground Zero: Can you survive?
and by Can you survive means... can you survive med school?
You will get to understand this better about a month after orientation.
I hope that you all will not be discouraged to join the future events of Orientation. The toughest hurdle has just ended, it is just left with the final run to the finish line. With a celebration of victory for being able to persevere to the end. After Orientation, life as medical/ dental students will really begin and you'll realize a lot more then.
I would like to really thank you for your comments. Thank you for your feedback.
"this is how we prepare you for your life ahead, because you are in med school"
ReplyDeletePAIGE, this is nonsense. i totally disagree with you. i didn't have to go through this during MY orientation. neither did the current semester 2s. and seriously speaking, i think i'm pretty much prepared for my life and med school just fine, thank you.
i think the junior as a point. i wished the committee would actually LISTEN instead of always looking at it from the "boot camp" point of view. or the "seniors" point of view. or for this matter, the "oh nothing is seriously wrong here" point of view.
THINK ABOUT IT.
Seriously paige. u need to go get a life. Like. All the ragging n stuff? What has it GOT to do with med sch? Seriously? Give me one GOOD VALID reason as to y ragging is a NECESSARY to GET ME thru med sch.
ReplyDeleteso i can get thru the tough times? Is there like some policy or rule out there that actually states precedent cases where graduates from IMU clearly define as ragging being ONE OF the reasons as to how they manage to make it thru med sch.
Come on. Show me some proof.
Dear Mr/Ms. Okay,
ReplyDeleteI believe Paige has written a very good comment. She addressed the problems faced by the juniors and maybe some seniors the best she could. '
I understand you feel that you do not need us(the committee or the seniors) to prepare you for life in med school or after med school. I also feel that what happened at that particular station we're all referring to did not paint a good picture as to what most of the seniors are. Yes, they were screaming at the juniors, yes, they were rude, arrogant and condescending. But no one can complain about what they required the juniors to do, cracking eggs on the head, dumping t-shirts in a pail of crap and answering questions were done in other stations too.
The only problem was the way they interacted with the juniors. I know no one likes to be screamed at or be called names. And no matter whatever those people say about what they received when they were juniors, it does not merit them doing whatever they wish to the current juniors.
However, when i asked some juniors whether they can accept what is being done, they said yes. What more can we(the committe or seniors) do? We need the complaints to reach our ears then and there so something can be done, not here(at this blog) when all is done and there is no more "ragging" stations.
My point is, that i hope the juniors do not take the events that took place at that particular station become the hallmark of this orientation. It is unfair to the other seniors who worked so hard to try to make their respective events fun and entertaining. Likewise, i hope that whoever reads this(seniors) realise that whatever you're doing is making the juniors unhappy and hating orientation. Is this fair to the organising committee? Just because of one particular event, in one station, many will not turn up for the remaining orientation events. Forget trying to toughen the juniors up and just go with the times. You're not responsible for them, neither are you paying for their education. This is a private university, and for the amount of money being spent, the juniors just want to graduate with a medical degree. If they choose to join your exclusive clique, you may do whatever you want to them. Orientation is not an event for the seniors to go wild, but for the juniors to enjoy. Like what arvinf said, the juniors are not obliged to us, but we need them to make the orientation a success!
as for the 1st anonymous, i agree with u EXCEPT for your racist comments. pls do not be so rude in the future. comments like the N-word are flames that will cause arguments, here, we want a peaceful discussion..
ReplyDeletedhinakaran, i totally disagree with u,
so u mean that u are 100% sure what the station masters/committees are doin 100% right things? people complaint to make things better. from your "As for those who wish to complain at every nook and corner of the uni, keep complaining and before u know, the orientation will be over, and u can go back to ur cocoon of comforts." so..what do u expect? everyone praise u 100% good job on all the things they did without complaints to amke anything better at all? complaints will make things run better. from all these comments, i only see u and paige are the one defending the station masters/committees. so do u realized where the problem actually lies now? try getting most of the juniors' comment in some particular events, and u'll know what i mean.
paige, i disagree with you too.
i have to say some part of these orientation is great. but some part is utterly bullshit.
i mean like, u guys keep saying "this is an orientation for the juniors". but think for yourselves, in those activities, who are the one having fun? station master who is laughing seeing the juniors almost puke when soaking themselves in those ridiculous shirt dipped in ridiculous liquids, or the juniors who got that "treatment"? and do u think its necessary for the juniors to soak the shirts for like 4 times in a day for the treasure hunt? once is not enough?
u guys plan all the activities just fine. but u just missed out the purpose, for juniors to enjoy the orientation right? then pls dont mind if i take an example of today, the Dress Code 1. whats the point of it? having every group to see what the other 13 group is performing besides their own group right? but what is with the "the group after the performing group get ready at the back stage and bla bla bla" which means, they dont get to watch the performance of the group before them, which again, leads to a mentality that, all we perform is for solely for the "committees" in front to enjoy it rather than for the batch mates. i mean like, cant u just let the juniors to watch all the performance and then take like 2-3 mins per group to get ready while u guys are photographing?
bout the "u can say no if u dont wanna do it",
kindly ask your station masters if they give the juniors an opportunity to say no or not. i mean like come on, "u can say no" just dont apply when u guys are doin what u doin in this orientation as u gave the juniors a situation where the juniors will think in front of so many eyes "when i say no, everyone will think i'm a coward". how can u say no in that position huh? this is common sense. i take the station 3 for example, they were shouting so dam loud and angrily that the juniors cant refuse or else they wont have dignity left in them. i bet u guys dont even consider leaving the juniors some of their dignity. even a humble non-egoistic doctor need some dignity.
life is tough, but do u get soaked up in smelly shirt 4 times everyday when u are in working environment? do u get a commander-like freak teaching u what to do?
can we survive med school? its decided individually and most of the time influenced by the mentality and the stress. but from what i can judge, the mentality that some of the stations are providing is discouraging and demotivating in the wrong cause.
creating bonds by ragging? is that necessary? do u mean anytime in the future when u get a new colleague who come in to your company/hospital, u'll rag them, spray paint on them to create bond? i bet u know there is much much more of better ways to create bondings.
anyway, i acknowledge that the committees and the other seniors placed lots of efforts in this orientation and i appreciate that, i really do. 2 big thumbs up for that..
reference for the future orientation committees, organize the events according to the main focus "its the orientation for juniors". not for the station master to rag the juniors or making the juniors do stupid stuff and laugh at them when most of the juniors are having the sour face.
Anonymous,
ReplyDeleteYou should seriously get a life too... You're up here bitching about orientation and posting as anonymous. Either you grow some balls or i'll just ask a cool chick like paige to give u some until you're done sucking your mama's tits.
Reveal yourself to the committee and tell us your problems and how you'd solve them.
Stop this pussified bullshit.
Oh, and since i'm now bitching about you, and just posted as anonymous, why don't we both go together and get some balls from paige?
ash, how u expect the juniors to say no, when u ask them if they can take it or not? i mean like, even if i couldnt take it, i would just say "yes, i could take it" and avoid further question bla bla bla...its the mentality ppl dont just confess saying "no i cant take it" like that especially in front of the committees
ReplyDeleteadding on to the other anonymous's comments before ash's which i totally agree. ragging have nth to do with med schools.
wanna build up students humility? theres lots of other better ways to do it. if these kind of ragging get spread out of imu, especially the "indian tradition". how u expect the number of applications to imu would be huh? this is a serious consequences in the long run..
to the anonymous that posted before my last post, could u keep those flaming out of the discussion? just dont start/continue flaming would ya? we are trying to voice out what we think peacefully here. whats the point asking ppl to reveal themselves over the internet? if u cant accept what we said, just switch off ur monitor and go get a cup of coffee..why care?
ReplyDeletewhen we cared to comment, we cared to make imu better. so keep ur flaming for yourself..
Well, regarding the issue of not being able to tell NO: if you, or the juniors can't say no to the SMs or tell the committee how you really feel at a time when a difference can be made, why bother to tell now when no difference can be made? Yes, i understand that saying no in front of them is difficult as you may feel embarassed or feel like a coward, but don't you think in reality saying to no to stand up to your own principles is actually the braver thing to do? Telling them that they are stepping out of bounds is a show of your own courage. And what's the point in having the committee around if you're not gonna utilise them? I was there, I was watching the show, the SMs did ask whether they can take it, and they said yes. I can't do much if they're willing to lie there and secretly despise the committee and SMs here. What do you think is best?
ReplyDeleteHi, it's Paige again.
ReplyDeleteWell, seems like there's many feedbacks here and I shall get to each one.
To okay...
firstly, i wrote" This is how we prepare you for your life ahead, because when you're in med school, life is tough, and it's worse when you graduate as a MD."
and not "...ahead, because you are in med school"
*there's an obvious difference.
"i didn't have to go through this during MY orientation"
Well, congratulations! But if I were to explain what's behind the truth, you'll be ashamed. I didn't want to say it but, I have no choice.
Okay, firstly, you're a senior right? Most probably in Sem 2. I would like to ask you if you know that we recruit SMs to participate in Orientation or not. Secondly, I wonder if you know that most seniors are not willing to be SMs for THIS orientation.
Yes, no?
Probably not. When ME208 came in, MEDT108 went to help out being OOs and SMs full force, that's why there were no lack of SMs or OOs. But for THIS orientation, it seems like the ME208s are rather less interested in helping out. Well, most of them only wanted to be OOs. But there were still lacking.
Due to this, we have no choice but to allow some other interested parties to help us be SMs. So, it's a kind of 'seniors not really helping out, so they kinda find the problem for themselves'
and as for this "i wished the committee would actually LISTEN instead of always looking at it from the "boot camp" point of view"
I really wished you knew how to speak up. So that WE LISTEN. But anyways, it's perfectly fine to rant. There won't be any of this in the days to come, so no worries, mate!
And thank you for your feedback:)
To Anonymous
I have a life.. But thank you for being so concerned about me.
And, I did not say that ragging was part of of leading you guys through Med school. What I meant was ORIENTATION as a whole, from Icebreakers to Finale nite. Not ONE STATION at ONE EVENT. So I don't think you got the point.
To Anonymous_100
I'm not defending the station masters my dear. If you read my comment again, I was only stating what I saw. I did not defend them.
And for the games during treasure hunt and icebreakers, as we have said many many many times, you can actually say no, but it's up to you if you want to say it, because we gaveyou the entitlement to do it but yu didn't want to use it. We have briefed the SMs already to exempt you from the games if anyone was to say no. These games, are planned by the station masters, not me or the committee. And to tell you the truth, these games is already much better compared to previous batches. You can ask your seniors (who participated in orientation)
And as for Dresscode, I really don't want to brag but, when we had our dresscodes, we never got to watch the other groups perform, AT ALL. That's why when we planned this orientation, we made sure that we get the right venue to accomodate all of you so that you at least get to watch most of the performances. When I was a junior, WE had to wait outside and do nothing and now as the committee, we thought that it would be great if you guys could watch your batchmates perform, because we didn't get the chance to see our batchmates. And this was what happened during our Variety Nite as well.
But if you guys think that we letting you guys watch at least 11 of the performances is not a good idea, we can scrap that and let you guys wait outside like we did.
And about station 3, well, most comments are targetted to station 3 I see... We're not creating bonds by ragging!!! Bonds are not created just by ONE STATION!!!! It's by the process of getting together and getting to know each other and then working together as a team. That's the aim of orientation, to get you to know your batchmates better, through the various activities that is planned out.
Well, can't blame you for that, I'd be pissed to if I were scolded that way too. As a junior, I was so upset about them too, but what the heck, it's over and we just get over it. What I've learnt was to get over any undesirable things and not to dwell in the past.
And thank you for your comment:) appreciate that.. and hope that you continue to participate in the coming events.
To Anonymous
...no comment... but thanks for saying I'm cool:)
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Well, I don't mind the negative feedback here because I know it's human nature to complain about all the bad things they see and forget of what good there is.
But, anyways, enjoy the last 5 days of Orientation:)
Be happy peeps!
OO....
ReplyDeletePlease la juniors, if you all really want to know what is the REAL meaning of ragging, why don't you all just ask the current sem 4 and 5, then you will know the diffrent of ragging and playing....
Dress code, only able to watch 11 groups performance, not good enough? Which means, you all want to have what we have last time, all stand outside and only the group performing can go in. Which one you want? Suggestion is just let you all watch, then only prepare when we taking photo is it? ARE YOU ALL THAT PUNCTURE AND EFFICIENT 1ST!!!! Our time start on 5pm, where are you all? Even we let you all prepare already when other group performing, you all still dragging time when is ur group time to performance... SO don't complain!
Please again juniors, WE all are juniors also like you all before and we have get the same thing, no is worse than you all please. Just get egg on ur head, shout loud at you, paint you and blablabla is already make you unhappy, then do you want the same orientatino like us? Having eggs or ikan masin in your pants in the whole treasure hunt, dunk is the t shirt into a MORE WORSE liquid than you all have, the INDIANS get more ragged then what you all get... Damn still got complaints. We all have already decrease and delete the worst thing for you all already please!!! The committees of course evaluate the station games with junior point of views please!!!! YOu are not them so please comment as you know them so well!
Say ''no'' to the station master is coward? actually is totally opposite. It is just that you DON'T DARE TO SAY NO ONLY! Please la staion masters are also juniors before and they of course understand if you can't take it ok!!!!
Complaining here and there, COMMITTEE and OO are always there for you all, and we don't get any complains on the spot, so how do we help you!!! We all get it before, we don't think it is that worse (as us), always got committee at most station to check, no complains, then good. Then only now complaining here and there.
I can assure you that, when you all become the committee of the orientation, you will only know what we are thinking and how the things goes. It is not as easy as you all think, you can't hope for 100% what you want, you can get please! We seniors have to rush here and there for our class, for exam, for orientation ok? We are trying out best to meet what you all want, so if got any complains, please sound out on the spot. Like that only it is effective please...
Juniors, I must said that, most of you (not all) are very very arogant and do not respect the seniors. If you really think you do not need any seniors to help you in your future life in IMU, I can assure that, you got 95% to meet with studying problems. Trust me. We all face it before and we know it.
Lastly, if you all don't like this kind of orientation, and feel that it is senior orientation in stead of junior, then, I want to see a totally different orientation in future intake. If you all can organize a better orientation, congrate. If not, sorry you are wrong...
Thanks... and please no insultation. What do you feel if you have try 100% and still get scolded with lousy reason? Please think for us seniors also. Summative is not as easy as you all thought.
Good Work guys = ) to both orientation committee and the juniors.
ReplyDeletejust dont take the negative part and amplify it la = )enjoy la
cheers,
Keng
To the juniors of MEDT109 who are unhappy about the orientation, well its a good thing that you voiced out your opinion, eventhough i think "anonymous" probably could have said it in a much more respectful and professional matter!. foul words such as "nigger like" should definately not be used. By using such words how can YOU complain about the "macha gang" using such words at you as well. im sure your frustrated, i guess you should voice it out in a proper manner..I strongly believe orientation has its good sides and bad,..it can be all fine & dandy right? besides RAGGING is not only done in IMU, every uni has their own ragging session,,its normal! (ask around)..i myself have gone through the ragging session in iMU, and eventhough it can be annoying.at the end of the day after everything has ended. the seniors and juniors actually become good friends. If you cannot handle the ragging session, inform your OO or one of the commitee member. trust me i know there are a lot of caring and compassionate members who are willing to help and keeping your name confidential.
ReplyDeleteEven in this post you can clearly see paige trying to understand your position and offering her help, and your reply to that doesnt really say much about yourself ANONYMOUS!..when you graduate and become a houseman, what do you expect things to be like??? you are gonna face the worst as well, you probably meet people who might be mean and all..at the end of the day its how you handle the situation that has been brought upon you..so now will be a good way to start.
To anonymous_100, well i doubt the number of student intake is going to decrease, there are more students in your batch after all. and i believe if you really want to do a course, you would not let a mere ragging session during orientation get in your way.. i do agree with some of the things such as the dress code, well eventhough i had the exact same thing during my orientation, maybe this is something that can be worked on.. but you have to understand that the MEDT 108 seniors have put in soo much effort and time to making this orientation successful,so that not only YOU or THEM but FOR BOTH!! of you to have fun..orientation is not only about the juniors, its about both parties getting along and mingling..obviously some might use this opportunity to push you around a bit and make you do weird things but its normal!!..let me remind you that the MEDT108 have an important exam next week yet they are doing everything they can so you have your orientation.
there will be some people who will enjoy the orientation and some who clearly wont, you cant cater for 1 type of group..you gotta do your best to make the majority happy and of course everytime there is always room for improvement.
Us seniors have been juniors as well, so trust me when i say we know how it feels! next sem you will be a senior and i hope you get involved in the committee and share your views!!..
i think its human nature to dwell in negativity, at the end of the day we really need to look pass all the bad stuff and appreciate the good moments if not your only going to make yourself unhappy. life is a bumpy journey, just make the best of it..
i think both juniors and seniors have a lot to take from the comments posted..pointing fingers is not going to get you anywhere.
"To okay...
ReplyDeletefirstly, i wrote" This is how we prepare you for your life ahead, because when you're in med school, life is tough, and it's worse when you graduate as a MD."
and not "...ahead, because you are in med school"
*there's an obvious difference."
omg, paige! i don't see the difference, it means the same thing. "you're=you are" and "because when" is the same thing as "because". IT MEANS THE SAME THING, PAIGE. don't try and wiggle your way out.
and it DOESN'T make any difference, whether i'm from sem1, 2, 3, 4, or 5. don't make excuses for having notorius SMs. it's hardly a good reason to say.. OH SINCE ME208 didn't help us, we must take whatever comes to us. that's the reality, yes. but still..don't you guys know some quality control?
people are complaining, you try and be diplomatic by putting that evil smiley ":)" at the end of your sentences and hope to god that things will be ok and pple will stop complaining.
you know what? NOT GONNA HAPPEN. you are still not listening. just r-e-b-u-t-t-i-n-g.
Anonymous_100
ReplyDeleteThe groups weren't ready even after one whole performance + photoshooting by the performing group which is around 7~9 min.
"Dress code takes so long zzzz"
Being able to watch 11/13 performances is UNFAIR? We dont get to watch half of the performances during our orientation.
We are not listening??
ReplyDeleteIf not listening we will not even bother to reply you all!!
Paige means different thing please... This is not the problem of you're/you are. It is the sentence behind "med school" please... It is a big different!
It is not an excuse for having the so called notorious SMs please, it is because it is already MILD for us who get worse before ok? Not like you all just get such little things already complain here complain there... The MED SCHOOL IS NOT BELONG TO YOU OK?
ME208 not help you, still got MEDT108 to help you there ok? And you really no need to take everything that give you ok? Since Me myself also refuse to do things so many times in my own orientation, I don't find anything wrong to say no!
Quality control? You all want to have worse orientation? Really want to know what is ragging, go ask your friends in pharmacy if got please... Then you know the different of ragging and mild please.
The smile is not evil, paige is just try to solve all your problem and bring peace ok?
Complaining is allowed, but please do it ON THE SPOT! no point you complain here when the event has passed so long time, no way we can rewind and change thing ok?
And DT108, you got any BETTER IDEA THAN CURRENT SITUATION of dress code? The committee already improve it in my point of view, if you got a BETTER WAY in the point of view of the dress code committee, only you say it out ok?
from Zombie Boss,
ReplyDeletethis cute little boot camp should be the best moments for u guys in IMU eh...
poor children... if i were u... i would enjoy this precious moment...thou sometimes we get..u know...embarezz or dirty kinna stuff....it makes us feel...FREE again...
try to get off that cute little tie and shirt and try to enjoy life...
ps- we are medical student....that need to grow up to be doctorz...
not book worms to grow up to be librarian...
pss- i heard manipal get worse eh.... and ur senior..US...gets it too... =.=
IM HAPPY thou
Try not to start a war here...
sandip & jeremy cries at night eh
haha all u guys so scared of the macha gang 1.. din no dat the macha gang so famous 1 wor.. everybody so envy them 1.. talk bad about them in this blog but in front of them say 'yes i can take it'.. haha so lame 1 u all.. even i said 'no' 2 them and they say 'ok' to me and let me sit down 1 side.. i heard 1 group made a sketch about them in dress code and they won wor.. haha.. just shows how cool this macha gang is 1..oh yes and to paige ah, i really enjoyed this orientation la.. so fun 1.. u guys did a gud job! XD
ReplyDeleteFirst of all,
ReplyDeletei would like to say to the juniors who had complain..
I realised there are many complains here but saying it all here in this blog doesnt make sense..if u people wana refer us as the nigga and macha gang,plz do free to come n tell me personally because i would really love to hear it from urself PERSONALLY cz i tink all of us are grown up and would be able to solve probs by ourselves and not COMPLAINING..
I also respect the commitee members for being so patient with the juniors and trying to make it the best as possible..
Honestly, i noe that station 3 has the most complains and im REPEATING myself, if u people wan to call us NIGGA or MACHA GANG or nytin else, plz come n see me n tel me directly..I would be glad tat u people are saying it directly in front of me rather than being some childish juniors or seniors that are talking behind the scenes..
If u people finally found ur guts, plz come n tell any indian guy what u have said in this blog..I will really appreciate it..
N for the seniors, i tink if u wana bang the seniors, please settle it behind closed doors cz i dun undstand why u guys cant come n tell those station 3 SM's things that ur really unhappy with rather than writting here although ur seeing them so many times in IMU n even PLAYIN FUTSAL with them..should i call u grown ups or something else?..
Heyo, just got back from the hospital... and wow, loads of feedback here...
ReplyDeleteSo, hi okay... glad that you're replying. Means you check this blog out:) And, well, if you don't understand the difference of the sentence, then... I forgive you:) it must be stress.. I understand..
So okay.. since we're doing such a bad job and it's probably too late to mend it, I really want to see a change in the next/future ones. I really want these comments/feedbacks so that we can allow the juniors to analyze the problems so that they will know what to do for the next orientation. So, since you've put in so much time and effort in giving us feedback, I would really be grateful if you would take on the challenge to make the next orientation better. I may want to participate in the next orientations, as how i did in my previous semesters here in IMU. I want orientation to be better.
I have to be really thankful for your feedbacks. Thank you!
I better get some sleep... lols~ CSU tmr..zzz and TT with FF!
seriously, u guys always said that u've been through much worse and know how the juniors feel..honestly tell me how much do u know about the junior's feelings?
ReplyDeletepaige said ppl only know how to see the bad side of things and not the good side, well, read my post(the long one) again..i did compliment the effort...but its not good enuf to cover up for all the shit that went through..yes u seniors ask us to enjoy it...but how? its not u who went through it this time...its u guys who enjoy doing those things...
and for your info, i've ask some of the seniors and most of them said that the sat's treasure hunt was alot MEANER and WORST than the previous one...u guys dont see it cause u are the one organised, enjoyed watching junior's being in a shitty condition...i personally dont see much smiles in the faces during saturday's treasure hunt and especially the icebreaking..u guys dare to say icebreaking is 100% successful? or even 80%?
i kinda agree with what Okay said..
and u guys think saying "no" when u wanna say it is easy? well..U ARE JUST NOT IN THE JUNIOR's SHOES...
OO said that juniors did not respect seniors...well..all i say that, matters of RESPECT are a 2 way thing..u want ppl to respect u, learn to respect ppl 1st..some seniors are acting like an *ss and it makes the juniors felt that respecting them is a waste of effort..or are u sure that 100% of the seniors are acting decently? so, if u want ppl to respect the seniors, then give us reasons to respect u..most of u maybe senior in education wise, but in age and life experience, u guys may not be on par at times...so..dont just hope that everyone respect u merely when u are just in sem 2,3,4 or 5..
wanna have fun? do it a 2 way fun..not a 1 way where "seniors get to do all the stuff on junior and juniors can do nth about it" its ridiculous...
if u guys still wanna fully defend the committees etc, then up to u..i cant do anything...twist all the stories that u want..not my problem if u guys can accept complains or negative feedback...
p/s: when negative feedback is made, dont try to make excuse to cover it up..instead..make a solution or brainstorm for the coming batch..we're all in med skul..i believe none of us will complain without reasons..
i'm actually quite disappointed when u guys are "seniors" in med skul and yet u come up with excuses when ppl gave negative feedback..then whats the point of the feedback? learn to accept feedbacks instead of countering them...
to Indian,
u dont want us to complain? u dont want improvement for future? fine...seems that IMU is filled that ppl who cant accept complains and negative feedbacks..boring~~ btw..it does make sense when there is complains..even in this blog..if u think it dont make sense..ask the blogger to close comment section and done..ok? its better since u guys cant take negative feedbacks..what are u guys expecting? all compliments and cheers? sorry..u are just not on it..
Hi everyone,
ReplyDeleteI know you guys are so unhappy with all those ragging stuffs. However, i just wanna tell you guys that it can be our fault, can be any others.
I am really sorry for all those station 3 ragging and stuff.
As a committee member, i really know that how much effort the committee has put to make this orientation to be a success. I hope you guys will not skip the orientation just because of that.
I hope you guys will enjoy this orientation
I’m writing this as a reply to all the previous posts pertaining to the nigger-like ppl/macha gang/exclusive-clique/etc. My name is Vinodhan (Semester 3) and I believe I’m part of the group of people that many of you referred to with those derogatory terms mentioned above.
ReplyDeleteFirstly, I’m going to explain the situation as well as I can before I move on to other matters. What is ragging? A definition from a reliable source, “rag - torment: treat cruelly”. I would like anyone to point out to me (in person) if there has been any sort of cruelty exerted upon any junior in the last 1 ½ weeks.
Adding on, I’m doing medicine as a 2nd degree, so what I’m really trying to say is that I’ve been part of both local and foreign educational institutions in the past and from what I’ve noticed, there has been none or minimal levels of “pushing” around (I don’t wish to use the term - rag) over the orientation period compared to anything I’ve seen before.
Example of things that have been asked to be done during this orientation period:
- introduce one’s self with pride and clarity
- get-to-know the seniors’ name and other relevant issues
- performing minor tasks such as presenting a fact-filled speech on a particular topic
- to play the part of a medical student (well-attired and to show some sort of respect to elders/seniors)
- etc.
None of the above tasks would immediately strike anyone of be unforgiving.
Secondly, regarding the 3rd station of the outdoor treasure hunt; the tasks asked to perform include:
- introduce one’s self with pride, dignity and clarity
- get-to-know the seniors’ name and other relevant issues
- performing minor-to-intermediate physical tasks
- performing minor tasks; telling a spontaneous joke, studies-related tasks etc
- cheering and responding as a group showing group dynamics
- standing up for each other, working together, team building and cohesion
- getting one’s self “dirty” with flour, egg and by dipping their shirt into a safe mixture
Yes, some of this was done in a very strict and disciplinarian-manner but they were all meant to serve the purpose of getting to know each other and learning a bit of respect for seniors/elders (if noticed microscopically, one would have noticed that the “worse” was reserved for the least respectful gentlemen). The physical tasks were part of the pre-approved station tasks while the “dirty” part was meant to be a light-hearted banter.
Every junior was given the opportunity to pull out or exclude him/herself from any of the asked tasks at any given time (I witnessed this and made sure it was asked to every group). Nevertheless, yes, some things could have been avoided such as the “language” (at times) which I sincerely apologise for.
I think I have explained myself (and for a few others) regarding most of the issues that I’ve got to known through back-bitching etc.
Lastly, it’s my sincere wish that any gentleman/woman whom may have any grouse regarding the treatment dished out to them; to come forward and voice their opinion in person rather than posting derogatory/insulting messages behind the “anonymous” tag. Besides that, I would also like any batch/orientation committe member of MEDT108 to come forward and voice out their grouses rather than “whispering” to one another when I/we have no idea what’s going on. Everyone’s entitled to their opinion and I would welcome them ONLY if their channeled in the right manner.
I am sorry if this post offends any gentleman/woman out there.
Thank you.
To Mr. Vinodhan, i truly believe dat the ragging made was for the right purpose. If u ask me, i feel that the ragging done was very neccessary. Ragging helps to make the juniors and the seniors more closer. As what i have seen in the previous batches, ragging has created a more positive effect rather than a negative effect. If you ask me, i realise that a lot of ppl criticised station3 in this blog. However, when i was there, most of the juniors agreed to the seniors of their given tasks. It was a very successful station to be honest. It made up to the orientation theme which was 'bootcamp'. I pity the fact that ppl these days are getting very childish making racist comments and coward statements. I realise dat a lot ppl are being hypocrits too. What they write in this blog is the total opposite of what is actually happening in Imu. Everyone seems to be enjoying orientation. The orientation commitee is doing a fantastic job i must say. This is definitely one of the best orientations i've been to over the past two years. Great job guys! Cant wait for the next orientation event!
ReplyDeleteSCREW U CLOWNS IN THIS BLOG...I NEED TO STUDY FOR MY SUMMATIVES...THIS SHIT DOESNT MATTER TO ME....U DIG THAT POSERS...U GOT THAT RITE....
ReplyDeleteFEMALE DOGS
Haiz, I not no comment already...
ReplyDeleteWe seniors trying to explain, then anonymous said we are trying to give excuse...
Think la, if we are trying to excuse ourselves, we don't even bother to type a long comment here. I can just simply type "because you coward" and go back to sleep already...
We are not defending the committee, we are explaining what they are doing. But if you don't agree with us, you can approach us and complain, which is more useful and effective other than talk **** here after the events have passed for 3-4 days.
If the seniors do not respect you, means you no need to respect them la now? Respecting people is not a two way thing ok? It is youself showing you own manners to other people. Some seniors do not respect you is their own manner problem, but you do not respect them is YOURS manner problem.
Which sem senior u asking? everyone talking the different things. But I here definitely can assure you, you all have the most mild treasure hunt in IMU! This is no from the point of view of a senior, but form the point of view from all batches ok?
Anonymous_100, you are just too coward to say no to people only. I told you, I have say no many times in my orientation to seniors and they allowed it. Hard to say "no" means you are too coward to say it out only instead of seniors fault.
Negative feedback is not wrong, but we need USEFUL NEGATIVE FEEDBACK, not some useless talking **** and complaining here. Negative feedback is more important than positive feedback since it can improve the future orientation. But please, It must be useful and reasonable.
Anonymous_100, you always said us seniors are not in juniors' shoes, so I wanna ask you, are you in us seniors' shoes? Don't give useless feedback just because you can't take the egg on your head/butter on your face/kena shout loudly and commanded to run ok? It is so lame. We have the experience as juniors, but you don't yet have the experience as a committee.
to OO: i hope you didnt get me wrong, im not saying you didnt improve your dress code or saying it was terrible.Im just saying that maybe next year a different method can be tried out, theres always room for change right??.so take it easy...i was just stating my view not critisizing.im sorry if that offended you.
ReplyDeleteNola you are not to me, but for the dress code manager...
ReplyDeleteHey everyone,
ReplyDeleteIm from a totally neutral party. Im not from the committee n neither m i from the jr batch. Im from sem 4 and i just wanted to share my experience here. Firstly, when i came in as a jr i definitely got ragged and being an indian i got it extra from the indian seniors. i disliked them during my orientation. I said NO to them when i thought i should n they did respect what i said. They did not pick on me for saying NO n they did not find fault or call me a coward. I did not see y their friendship would matter to me at all. I din think they wud make any difference in my life in IMU.
Eventually orientation was over and we finally started classes and i still din think they mattered much in my life. But then, i walk pass them somedays and they throw me a smile, pass a comment or wave...i still din think they were great people.
Exams in IMU could be stressful at times especially the first exam in IMU, unless u guys are genius. There is so much to study and we r pretty much on our own and i usually forget things i've studied easily. My first summative in IMU, I was shit scared...i din wana fail, i stressed out and din noe what to really expect. The same bunch of seniors who i disliked during my orientation, one day, casually stopped by and asked hw i was coping. I told them i had shit loads to study…so that i could end the conversation and walk away...instead, the bunch of seniors started giving me some advices and told me that they wud pass me some materials which might help, which i tot was jus total bullshit and that they wud eventually forget about it. The very next day i recieved materials from these seniors...Not only that, these bunch of people whom i disliked because they ragged me, shouted at my face and called me names during orientation, actually sat with me for hours trying to explain a lecture note or a topic i couldn’t understand, they sat with me in MMS almost the entire day, teaching me. They constantly checked on hw i was doing, they passed me useful materials which most of the times u can only get from ur seniors and not from uni or library. At that point i saw their sincerity and their wanting to help me out in IMU. They were not obliged to help me, they weren't even in the list of people whom i wud consider as friends. They were the first few people i knew in IMU n i DISLIKED like them and i bet they even knew that...but they helped me.Y? cause they wanted to... As much as i disliked them, i was entirely grateful to them. Im in sem4 nw, and up till now i get their help in many ways.
When I got the chance to be an SM I ragged the juniors. I didn intend to make enemies, I jus wanted to get to know them. I don’t think I made anyone hate me but those whom I have ragged are my friends now and I think if it wasn’t for orientation I wouldn have known them.
Im not trying to justify what has happened to the juniors as i wasnt involved in any way n i wudn noe wat went wrong or whatsoever. All im trying to say is that u cn hate them for shouting at you and passing embarasing remarks but they can b nice and helpful people. Do not just throw words because u r angry n frustrated nw for hw u hav been treated. Dont jus pass comments especially racial comments as u might hurt many parties. Orientation is probably the only fun thing in IMU, enjoy it.
word shalini
ReplyDeletehey guys
ReplyDeleteI'm a junior and so far the orientation is "quite" fun.
After reading all the comments, I really feel that some juniors are SOOO sensitive(no offence).I mean this is orientation, and the ragging is not thatttt bad compared to previous years(My bro's time was awful)...and seriously speaking, i think its quite mild(some other unis are worse)
But the point of all this is to hav fun, get dirty and work as a group. You should not say like "oh...the seniors are haveing ALL the fun while the juniors suffer" and "the 'maccha gang' is like totally out of line with all those hurtful comments blah blah".
We are all going to be future Drs and if we can't even bare with a few humiliating comments or actions...than how are you going to survive once you are out of med school?We will all face some patients and superiors that will be worse that all this ragging for sure.
So don't be sooo sensitive about all this ragging and stuff,Its just plain fun and if you feel offended or hurt, you can always say no or don't join the orientation.
So far its been quite fun, eventhough i skipped telematch and dress code 2...but all in all, i think the seniors and my group's OOs are GREAT!!!really having a blast so far.
So just chill and enjoy the ride,next week the REAL battle starts when we just have time to study study study...sigh...so ya,Don't like get angry and get all racist la!!!Don't forget nxt semester is our time to rag ppl *evil laugh*
Oh, and good job seniors and OOs,orientation is great.
and for all my batch mates enjoy orietation!!!no stress man!!!
Hi, I m one of the treasure hunt officer.
ReplyDeleteThanks to receive so many feedbacks from the juniors.
Seems like the debate here is still continuing,everything need to be settled by now and things should not go more complicated. I would like to clarify something.
From what the comments the juniors have dropped, the only bad issue about outdoor treasure hunt is regarding the station 3. As the event organising committee,I would like to say sorry first to all the juniors who have been ragged quite badly on that day.I did travel around stations on that day for a while, what I saw was the SM from station 3 asked the juniors to run around, do group cheer from far end.Maybe I did missed a lot part of what were happening later, but the physical part should be not overboard compared to the last orientation, where the juniors have to commander crawl on the cement floor and that will probably injure their elbows.The worst part which can be improved is that the way the SMs talked. I noticed that they talked in a loud voice and maybe in a rude manner, but they won't really harm you guys. What they want is just to make you guys feel scared of them and maybe can remember them in the future? (In a unique way?), and I admit it is my mistake forget to brief you guys before that so that you guys can fully prepared for that station first.If not, you guys would have ready for that station and felt nothing for whatever words that have been thrown to you guys. Every year orientation there must be a Macha gang station for trasure hunt to make the event more prominent to the juniors,so that they can remember their orientation.For this orientation,the control of ragging maybe is a bit not that well compared to last batch orientation(they did a great job), but the overall ragging is not that severe as those days our seniors suffered. So, I do really hope the juniors just don't take it so seriously as your orientation supposed to have fun (maybe u guys just don't like the way they talked, but everything will be over after treasure hunt, maybe some will even make friend with them?).Here I can tell u guys, organising an event especially treasure hunt is not that easy, first we need police permit for any outdoor activities which involve more than 10 people. Secondly, we need permission letter to use the park from the marketing team of Bukit Jalil Stadium. Thirdly, everything have to be planned properly including the flow, OO briefing, Zombies briefing, SM briefing, timekeeper briefing and others. If one particular thing is not done properly, the whole treasure hunt will be screwed up and be messed up. Here we are hoping to have a feedback that might help to improve our further orientation events, so I really hope that the juniors who dropped the comments above maybe want to share more of what you have experienced badly on the treasure hunt day by contact me directly, I would like to listen and find out more of what was happening that day. My contact number is 014-6847354. Everything will be kept confidential. Thanks.And I wish the arguement will be stopped right here. Orientation is left few days more, hope you guys will fully participate in the rest upcoming events, enjoy!!!!
Dear Anonymous_100,
ReplyDeleteI din say i dun wana hear complains..If u have personal grudge with anyone or u dislike the way how he or she ragged, u have to speak to them n solve the problem..thats the nature of life..
No point writting here cz nothing cn be done besides having vulgar and racist comments thrown at certain parties..
So I hope u understand the point im trying to make..
Neways, yea i do think this is one of the best orientation we had..well done commitee members..
macha gang rules wor!
ReplyDeleteone eighty...
ReplyDeleteha ha ha....im really enjoying this...
ReplyDeletei want to b a macha too la!
ReplyDeletepanaskannnn?... makan sini?...
ReplyDeleteyea... berapa aunty?...
ReplyDeleteenam limaaaa....ada lima puluh sen?..
ReplyDeletetakde la aunty..eh got 50 cents ar?(asking fren)....
ReplyDeletearr.. wait arr...(checking pocket)...i got one buck...jz use la..
ReplyDeletethanks man...there aunty...
ReplyDeletetrima kasi.....(smile)
ReplyDelete2 VEGs + 1 Meat = RM3.80.
ReplyDeleteDear "severely ragged" guys, I'm sure typing your derogatory comments out here is certainly much braver than voicing yourselves out to the senior SMs when you were doing their tasks? Or at least, that must be how you feel judging from the comments I'm reading.
ReplyDeleteTo the various anonymous commenters who feel that standing up and saying something to the seniors would be perceived as cowardly, I have a question for you. Don't you think that not having the guts to stand up for yourself if you feel you were being unfairly treated is far more cowardly than saying "NO"?
Maybe it's just me, but personally I think a few juniors commenting here are giving the whole batch a pampered outlook. As an OO, I can see my group's been having loads of fun so far and taking everything as a new experience. But hey, then again, that's just me.
And to those of you who think you're getting "roughed up" by seniors, I seriously wonder how you're going to deal with clinical school doctors, housemanship and even Dr. Achike biting your head off for that matter. All the best to you, then. Studying medicine or dentistry doesn't make you any more superior than anyone else, in case you ever got that impression.
And if you think I don't know where I'm speaking from, I went through the exact same thing as you guys did just half a year ago, if not more. Being Indian, we get a little extra too :) And till this day, I don't have a single hard feeling against any senior, Indian or otherwise. It's fair to say I have fantastic seniors who're always concerned about how we juniors are doing.
To Jeremy, Sandip, Paige and the rest, thanks for organizing an awesome Orientation :) And I think that comes from all the SMs, OOs, and a vast majority of the juniors as well.
WOW!
ReplyDeletewriting as anonymous here does not mean we're coward or something. it just not to make things anymore complicated in our university life. which part of my comments are not meant to make future orientations/activities better?
when did i say i'm complaining on the "egg on my head/butter on my face/kena shout loudly and commanded to run"..those are averagely fine to me..u weren't there the entire time for all the juniors..so u cant judge whther u got it worst in your year or its worst in this batch..especially when u are the one enjoying "ragging" the juniors..
if u count the number of members present in most of the events and compare to the amount of juniors in this batch..u can easily tell that my negative feedbacks aren't just plain shit..it is u who didnt wanna face the fact and dont wanna accept it and regard it as useless shit..
if u can just think of it, ppl dont give negative feedbacks without any reasons..i myself thinks this orientation is awesome..but there is still lots of minus points as well..but it seems that most of the committee members cant take it and started blaming the anonymous for being cowards and take their comments as useless shits..
there is a reason why anonymous comments exist too..but most ppl just dont get it..
*speechless*
if u guys still think that u guys did 100% of a good job out there and my feedbacks are 100% shits..then suits yourself, i'll just regard my positive-intentioned comments here are waste of breath.. i bet u guys worshiped the juniors who dont even care to give u comments on the negative side of ur events, kept quiet and dont give a damn of all your minus points rite?
today is the last day of orientation..posting here seems meaningless after it since no one cares to use the comments to provide better performance for the future..
signing off,
Anonymous_100
hey Anonymous_100, ur just a loser who cant think of anyting else but to just talk shit in this blog. Why dont u grow sum balls and accept the orientation like it is? i should call u Shithead_100 instead
ReplyDeleteGood job orientation committee...you guys have done a great job despite having hectic schedules and having to study for summatives this coming week. *claps for you all*
ReplyDeletewait. why is this blog post titled march 21?
ReplyDeletewoo, time machine.
I like zombies! WHeee :D
ReplyDeletehahah.. aiya, just take it easy la juniors. time warp you guys to the previous orientations then only you know. hahaha..
ReplyDeletethis ragging thing has existed from our datuk moyang time d la.. it's just a senior-junior session.
u all will laugh bout it la in months to come. its for fun only.
dont la next time ppl jokingly tease u only u get all worked up pula. social recluse nanti, you will get that as one of ur learning issues for PBL. haha..
be a sport, okay? people say 'black keys and white keys makes music too'
during our time we tell the SMs 'we dip our hair into that concoction we get extra points ok??' and we'll just laugh together. and that's what the girls suggested ok. not the guys. and that concoction has got dead fishes floating around. people could smell us from a distance, yes.. we smell. plus some of us had to take d train home, and we bonded with our groupmates by showering at their place b4 going home. see, domino effect. one thing leads to another ;)
and sorry la, ya? we just sincerely want you all to loosen up, get wild and have some fun. honestly we got lotsa things to do as well, but we want to be part of ur experience this orientation, we want to help u guys have fun too. sometimes we treat the juniors like our children la, we make sure u guys makan aldy.. make sure u guys are ok with everything.. we tell u bout imu, how to study, wat books to get.. even during lectures, we think about you. because we really do care for the juniors, just like how our seniors cared for us.
serious shit wan okay. not simply being mushy and caring. i dont like to get mushy wan ok.. just want u guys to know tat we care. awww...
hugs and kisses XOXO =D
dear my name..
ReplyDeletepeople are just voicing out what they think about the orientation.. who are you to tell people off when you yourself use "my name" instead of revieling yourself to us?
do you mean that giving out opinion means talking shits? then you better dont voice your opinion to anyone in the future if its so.. if you do, you SMELLS!!
anonymous_100 did not mention he/she dont enjoy the orientation.. grow up, human!
since you ask him/her to grow some balls, what about you? people tend to offend/scold others in such way because they themselves do not have the courage to be a real man in life.. think about it..
hey cindy, u do realise dat every1 is against anonymous_100, so if i were u, i would shut my mouth and please use proper english next time..
ReplyDeleteoh and you seem to know a lot about growing balls.. if u want some, u can buy them from endah parade.. got basketball, soccerball and many more..
To cindy,
ReplyDeleteplease ah cindy, u dunno anytin bout this blog ah? simply cum and make stupid-stupid comment..
haiyah so lame wan ah u..
to ben:
ReplyDeletedo you think you know things well? who are you to teach people what to do?
i am one of the ex imu student.. i am not offending anyone here.. if you feel offended or something, i am sorry..
when you started your working life like i do right now, you will realise how silly and naive you people are now..
life is unexpected.. be good to yourself and others.. why wanna be harsh on someone?? everyone got their own thinking.. be nice people..
to kenny teoh,
ReplyDeletehey why dont u go clerk sum patients in the hospital n mind ur own business?
nobody asked ur opinion so if i were u i would stay out of diz being an ex imu student..
P.S : i hope ur not offended and i'm being NICE
kenny teoh=LOSER
ReplyDeletealrite class well begin our english lessons.. the student on my right.. yes you.. wats ure name?..
ReplyDeletecindy foo teacher...
ReplyDeletealrite.. cindy...todays lesson is gonna be about the right way to speak and type in english..u ok with that?..
ReplyDeleteyes teacher...
ReplyDeleteok.. first word will be revealing.. i repeat.. revealing...can u follow?..try typing it cindy..
ReplyDeletearrmmm... revieling...correct ar teacher??..
ReplyDeleteok cindy listen to me reallllyy carefully.. revealing.. re-vea-ling... try again cindy...
ReplyDeletearmmm ok teacher...revealing.. correct teacher?..
ReplyDeleteCorrect cindy!!.. good girl...ok next lesson...
ReplyDeleteteacher teacher.. can go toilet ar please teacher??....
ReplyDeleteNO!!!!... SIT DOWN....URE ENGLISH 'SMELLS'(mocking)...ok next lesson.. singular and plural...ALRITE??..
ReplyDeletearmmm ok teacher(sits down)...
ReplyDeleteok..SIT DOWN NICELY!!!.. ok...example of sentence...do you mean that giving out opinion means talking ____?...wats ure answer cindy?...
ReplyDeleteermmmm...shits?(smiling with confidence)..
ReplyDeletecindy cindy cindy...the answer is SHIT!.. u cant use plural la stupid...haiya....ok ok im gonna give u one more sentence.. u better get it correct k?.. sentence is..if you do, you ____!!... wats the answer??...
ReplyDeleteermmm .. i know my english is bad teacher i just try lo ok?..ermmmmmm... SMELLS?..
ReplyDeletehaih.. ok nevermind... next lesson...BEING STUPID...alrite cindy??...
ReplyDeleteok teacher...teacher how u going to teach me this?...
ReplyDeleteCORRECT!!!...but u still got a lot to learn la.. ill come next week...have to go teach kenny teoh now...bye...
ReplyDeletePAI PAI teacherr!!XD...
ReplyDeleteso what if my English is not good? so what? i still survive.. respect your seniors can? i am also one of your ex senior.. you expect people especially your juniors to respect you when you yourself dont respect others?
ReplyDeletenowadays you people are getting ridiculous.. we used to get negative feedback that were even worst than all these but we still accept them.. we did not argue until like that... we knew we did our best and we are happy about it..
i love my medical school but my juniors are acting like this to us.. i'm so disappointed..
eh? cindy's english improved wor.. walauweh!
ReplyDeletei think i know her..if i'm not mistaken... she used to help us a lot.. thanks ya!
ReplyDeletei remember her because i used to have many friends with the name cindy.. one of them is my senior.. haha... what a coincidence..
she is friendly ok... dont treat her like this... try to think what you will feel if your juniors insult you in future..
egg sandwich RM 0.05..
ReplyDeleteanonymous, can u pay th bill?
a jack like u who cant stand ragging perhaps can at least settle ur bill rite..
pay up pay up..
5sen shj!
well well well..to the guy on mak cik kantin(and some other "cute" names which is the same guy i think).. u think your english very good? at least from what i see, u failed in reading..when did i say i cant stand ragging? FYI, i went through all the "task" although unwillingly because i thinks its not necessary..u must be thinking u are quite a funny guy..but on the contrary, u are just making fun of medical students with those childish english implementations(u gonna be a doctor for goodness sake). a patient come up to u saying "me sick here" and u'll go laughing at him/her?
ReplyDeleteto ben,
one question. since u said everyone is against me, may i know who are those ppl and why?
who : mostly committees, seniors
why : no valid reasons except they think i'm talking shit
to most of the ppl out there(especially seniors) who said that "we had it in our orientation too".. so, what your seniors did to u, u have to do it to the juniors? the seniors give u a slap on the face, u pass it down to juniors? and then the chain continues? i know your intention is to create bonds, but is ragging the only way? that is why i think its unnecessary. ppl dont gather cause the ragging FYi..they gathered for the activities such as DC1,DC2,telematch,variety night etc when they practice for sketch..
to My Name,
u said i talked shit..what shit did i said? u dare to say i'm not intending to make the next orientation better? are u trying to ask ppl to shut up so that things wont improve? u are the one talking shit when u dont try to make anything better rather than flaming ppl who actually try to help and give some feedbacks. i dont mind u calling me ShitHead_100 when i try to talk shit with intention to make improvements. but what will u call yourself when u are just trying to protect the negative side of this orientation and not even bothered to make things better.
to english Teacher, your english really really good~~~ (i bet u just want ppl to praise u like a kid right?) so happy now? want anymore candies?
ppl can say i'm childish/not sporting cause i dont like some of the stuff going on orientation (its normal for most ppl..maybe only seniors think whole orietation is perfect for juniors)..but i strongly thinks that i'm more mature than those who only know how to flame and protect their own negative side with excuses and flaming.
finally..i would like to agree with kenny teoh on his statement.
we're in medical school for god sake. unless u think u are a 100% perfect doctor, else when u are working and u get negative feedbacks from nurses, patients and u will go "U ARE TALKING SHIT" to them? think..
many said i'm talking shit, can any1 give valid reasons that i'm talking shit? any1 can tell off all my statements are not true?
hey guys i'm just a loser here actually.. sorry ya.. yes i'm a LOSER
ReplyDeleteto Anonymous_100, ur just a big JACKHOLE! JACKHOLE! hahaha
ReplyDeleteExcuse class.. does anyone know anonymous_100's phone no?.. i have to teach her english la..because she jz strongly THINKS a lot of things u know...anyone?..
ReplyDelete(phone rings)..helo?.. whos there?..is it my ANONYMOUS boyfren cause i strongly THINKS so..
ReplyDeleteforget it...(puts phone down)
ReplyDeletehelo?? helo??... boyfren?...i thinks?...
ReplyDeletehaha Anonymous_100 sucks man totally!
ReplyDeleteseriously...english teacher etc..u are hilarious xD..is that the compliment u want? XD
ReplyDeleteall u guys can say is that i'm a loser, jackhole, teasing me off with some "english teacher" thingy and say i suck..what a comeback..
but guess what...u guys didnt even have the answer to my statement, "many said i'm talking shit, can any1 give valid reasons that i'm talking shit? any1 can tell off all my statements are not true?"
so u all should know the reality..just accept the fact...
anymore "strong" comebacks? u can continue the english teacher thingy...its hillarious..well, at least to yourself..
to Anonymous(I'M A FOOL)_100,
ReplyDeletehaha the reason we dun answer ur petty statements is bcoz we dont bother at all man! haha to us ur just a loser dat we can make fun of! haha wat a joker la u.. this blog is becoming a hit bcoz everyday people wanna c u get bullied around by us man.. cum on reply sumting back fast so dat imu students can hav more fun!
zzz another comeback like such...
ReplyDeleteyeap..i'm a fool..i dont know why i even wanna continue trying to help the next orietation committees to make it better...yea i'm a loser..at least in malaysia...u know why western countries are so much more advance? because they have critics..whenever ppl critisice them, they tend to accept the critics positively and improve better...in malaysia? lol..look at this...i put on some negative feedback...and wow...everyone in the committees started to give excuses on the negativity...when the excuses didnt work, they started flaming/cursing me..didnt any1 even consider to change things? typical malaysians eh..continue making fun of me..cause in the long run..we know who are the one whom have been made fun of..u think u are bullying me? with those weak comebacks? oh come on..cant u at least give a better excuse why u are not answering my questions? u can at least do better than that...
anymore ppl wanna curse me? come on..at least try doing it better than the guy above..
"haha the reason we dun answer ur petty statements is bcoz we dont bother at all man!"
PS: isnt a petty statement easier to be countered? that gives u no reason not to answer it rite? in fact..u are bullying and making fun of yourself.. think man..think of a stronger comeback... lol..
imu students sucks!! woohoo~~
ReplyDeletethis blog is ridiculous.. hahaha.... hey benedict! why on earth you tell me about this blog? wat a stupid blog.. *sigh* you people better change your medical course to some how-to-be-a-clown courses... suits you people la...!! wakakaa.....
offline and stick to your book la.... losers.... wat for kept making fun of some juniors who is just new in imu? pathetic la you people...
thanks god i'm not medical student! din know imu got sooooooo many pathetic fools.... hahahaha!!!!!!!!
hey i just found out who Anonymous_100 is.. So to dat particular person, i know who u r so u better watch ur back in imu man..
ReplyDeleteTo everyone..orientation is over except charity home visit..i hope u guys could stop all these arguements..since u guys r saying tat we r all medical/dental students..we shouldnt be flaming at each other here...
ReplyDeleteTo anonymous_100...whoever tat comment or reply to u might not be the commitees..so pls dun assume tat most of the ppl tat comment here is from the commitee..we r definitely not defending ourselves..i hope u understand tat ur comments n feedbacks of orientation r heard...but pls do stop the arguement wit whoever tat is against u..enjoy ur life as a imu student..ur life as a medical/dental students just started..
Dorlands...well come and scold/hit/kill me if you want...i dont care much...my life is here..if u are capable, take it...i even doubt if u know who am i...ppl like u who "try" to threatens when ppl give critics on your thing not even worth being afraid of...and with this attitude u wanna try to speak bout "be sporting and get over it" ? lol...
ReplyDeleteJin Lin...well...i respect your words on it...but if u do wanna stop the argument..ask those who are arguing when ppl are giving feedbacks...as far as i'm concern...i'm not flaming any1 nor teasing any1...and i didnt start any flaming at all...
heyooooooo....
ReplyDeleteanonymous_100, hope to see the feedbacks be used in the next oreintation.
but rite, you should just send your feedback to the email and not here, so ppl won't flare here there loooo....
orientation is the bomb!!!
to Anonymous_100,
ReplyDeleteseriously dude, "who "try" to threatens when ppl give critics on your thing"....
thats bad english man.. Now i know why people make fun of you..
everyone care so much about english structure here? dont tell me every1 could not understand what i've said.. so is there anything to make fun of? i dont think decent committees will make fun of me just because i gave feedbacks with an absolute shitty english.. i admit my english is bad(i will admit my weakness when i have one without denial), but as long as my english is understandable, why care if i have 100% grammatical error? it wont kill u...
ReplyDelete"what talk me u no understanding?" xD
omg.. u are seriously proud of your bad english.. there's nothing i can say to ppl like you.. good 4 u man..
ReplyDeletewhen did i say i'm proud of my bad english? u dont seem to understand english any better.. i'm just saying that as long as my english is understandable, why care? anyway..i bet your english is better than me...i'm stupid..please point to me which part of my saying indicate that "i'm seriously proud of my bad english" (altho actually i do..well..as least i accept it as a weakness and i dont deny it)...lol...u have nth to say to ppl who are proud of their weaknesses(bad english) and try to speak? then what u have to say to those who is not proud of their weaknesses and try to deny/avoid/hide it? compliment them?
ReplyDeletegood for u too...
It's been about a month since orientation has passed. Surprisingly, it all seem so long ago. To tell the truth, I felt really angry during the outdoor treasure hunt too. But the real reason i didnt say no, was because my group members all were 'enthu' about the famous macha gang station. Thinking back now, if it weren't for the ragging and dirty stuff back in orientation, I wouldnt have made so many good friends so quickly.
ReplyDeleteI'm glad i was angry at one time. It was something in common for us juniors at that time. It really brought us together.
Life is too short to be miserable. I choose to look at the bright side of things. And, I think, most of us (if not all), juniors are already at peace with the past and already moving on. Orientation was tough, I admit. But it made me learn some things about myself. Since then, I've become a better person. I dont know much about what others think, but I 'know' the overall orientation was a success.
To my orientation group, Oo's and members alike. I love you guys.
To the orientation committee, thank you. Thank you so much. I wont forget what you have done for me.
To the macha gang, I really respect you guys. You guys are so tough to take so much heat from us juniors. Good job. Good job.
To the SM's, you guys have done a great job. You made us juniors do some crazy stuff out there. Though tiring, but it was great.
I'm so happy that i didn't skipped even for a day of orientation.
Thank you:) Orientation is the past now, but continue to connect with people and study~
ReplyDeleteAlthough orientation was tough, the aim was to foster friendship. What I've learnt was that without stress, you'll never progress. You'll never know how far you can actually go.. lol~ And through numerous activities, we can know who are capable of leading, who can sing, who can dance, who can be artistic.. all the talents...that we would not know... lol~
And through many feedback I got directly from juniors, some said that they've never gotten to get to know people so well in such a short time, and that you don't just have "Hi and Bye" friends, but friends you hang out with and such.
Hope you all are coping well in your studies~
*paige*